Counterchronic | And Broncano ended up regretting it: "I thought it would make sense"

The world upside down: La Revuelta was not La Revuelta, Broncano was not Broncano, Abascal was his moderate version and the public was not such either. The long-awaited interview with the leader of Vox on TVE began doped up from the beginning: Broncano himself confirmed that Vox had chosen its audience in the theater and offered Santiago Abascal a "no nonsense" interview that the leader of Vox accepted without thinking. And Broncano is a comedian, not an interviewer of politicians: he lacks the necessary experience and documentation. Tables. Manolete, if you don't know how to bullfight...

Opposite, Santiago Abascal began to feel and sit more and more comfortable in the armchair, extending the topics that best suited him - immigration, Ceuta, housing - and escaping from the ambushes that Broncano was setting for him: phrases such as "The gender perspective in housing construction", "climate change because the weather changes during the day" or "what does my opinion about the Franco regime matter" were left in limbo because Abascal knew how to slip away - "I don't I build, I'm not a scientist, I don't have data" - and change the subject or due to a well-calculated ovation from the public. "I knew this could happen," an increasingly nervous and dazed Broncano commented midway through the interview. His direct outburst to the leader of Vox for his conversation with Israel - "You didn't have the balls to tell him" - marked a turning point and free fall that he himself seemed to perceive.

From the beginning, David and Santiago were placed in a clearly defined trench: Broncano expanded on long questions and Abascal responded in short, interrupted again and again by the interviewer's replicative stuttering, in search of a resignation or a headline. "In the end I'm going to interview you," the politician protested against a constant ping-pong that the TVE presenter started from his opinion, not from the question: "The criminalization that you do..., the dangerous speech that you make..., with your tone you have made a worse country...". There was hardly any debate, just a tug-of-war on the stage of a theater in which the protagonists changed their roles at times.

Midnight had not yet arrived when Broncano seemed to give up and prepared to say goodbye to the guest, first regretting the public's silence on topics such as Francoism and regretting the program's decision: "I thought this might make sense." It wasn't him, nor was it his program.

-"I'm not going to wish you luck, but thank you for coming," David said goodbye.

-"I'm going to wish you luck, because you're going to need it," replied the sly Santiago.

-Why do you say that," Broncano wanted to know.

-"Sometimes I get the comical point, which is what you have lost in this interview," said Abascal, grown up.