Katarzyna Pełczyńska-Nałęcz announced that she was leaving Donald Tusk's government because "values are more important to her than positions." The head of Poland 2050 accused some MPs from her own party of siding with "political arrangements" and not citizens in the vote. Today, Krzysztof Ziemiec asked his guests about the political future and the situation in the coalition in the "Check!" program. at RMF FM.
According to Paweł Jabłoński, subsequent conflicts show the increasing fragmentation of the circles that co-created the ruling camp.
The Third Way is falling apart more and more. This is a chain reaction, said the politician, pointing to the divisions between Polska 2050 and PSL, the split in the Poland 2050 community and the creation of separate parliamentary clubs.
Jabłoński did not rule out talks with parliamentarians who are dissatisfied with the current situation. He emphasized, however, that any cooperation should serve to remove the current government from power.
We still have an offer to all those who want to remove this evil government from power, he declared.
Mirosław Suchoń, in turn, questioned the credibility of Pełczyska-Nałęcz's allegations regarding a violent work culture and the loss of the ethical compass by the government coalition. He argued that people leaving the government should be assessed taking into account their previous responsibility for its functioning.
If suddenly today, after three years, someone comes out and explains (his departure with such reasons - editor), it seems to me that it is inappropriate - said the Center politician.
Mirosław Suchoń emphasized that Pełczyńska-Nałęcz had been part of the coalition for a long time and had the opportunity to shape the principles of cooperation. He also pointed out that her decision surprised some people who had previously supported her in intra-party politics.
The head of the Center club also commented on the suggestion that the lack of agreement on the nominations may lead to a reduction in the involvement of some coalition partners in the work of the government. In his opinion, internal disputes should be resolved without public pressure.
Jabłoński: I do not question Berek's professional competences
The program also touched upon the topic of Maciej Berek and the Constitutional Tribunal.
Paweł Jabłoński argued that the former minister in Donald Tusk's government did not meet the requirements for appropriate experience in practicing the profession of a legal advisor. He referred to the parliamentary inspection he carried out and the answers obtained from the institutions where Berek had previously worked.
The law must be obeyed. Since it is in force, it must be complied with, Jabłoński emphasized.
The Plus Development Politician emphasized that he did not question Berek's professional competences, but in his opinion the problem concerned the formal conditions for taking up the position.
I do not question Mr. Berek's competence. I think he is a good lawyer. The problem is that he does not meet the formal requirements, he added.
Mirosław Suchoń strongly rejected these allegations. He argued that the candidate's documents had been examined by the Chancellery of the Sejm and that the opposition was presenting the matter selectively.
The Chancellery of the Sejm, which operates absolutely independently, examines all documents submitted to the Chancellery - he argued.
Suchoń also pointed out that practicing the profession of a legal advisor does not have to mean employment as a full-time employee in a specific institution. In his opinion, the arguments presented by Jabłoński do not prove that Berek did not meet the required conditions.
Jabłoński proposes a reset of the Tribunal
In the context of the crisis surrounding the Constitutional Tribunal, Jabłoński presented a proposal for a comprehensive change in the method of selecting judges. In his opinion, the solution should not be for another political community to take advantage in the Tribunal, but to develop a new model accepted by various parties to the dispute.
We proposed a reset, i.e. the re-election of all judges, he said.
Politician of Development Plus supported a system in which judges would be elected by a three-fifths majority of votes in the Sejm, and their terms of office would begin gradually. In his opinion, this is to limit the risk of one parliamentary majority filling many positions at once.
Jabłoński argued that the lack of a universally recognized constitutional court weakens the state and may lead to the transfer of disputes to the level of European institutions.
Mirosław Suchoń did not agree with this diagnosis. He accused the president and the opposition of hypocrisy, arguing that the current problems of the Tribunal result from the previous subordination of this institution to the political interests of PiS.
According to Suchoń, the Tribunal should be formed in accordance with the constitution, and the elected judges should perform their duties. The politician emphasized that this institution is intended to protect citizens against unconstitutional actions of the authorities.
Two-term terms for local government officials and tensions between coalition partners
The program also touched upon the issue of two-term terms for commune heads, mayors and city presidents. Jabłoński suggested that the failure to change this matter may be a consequence of informal arrangements between the coalition groups.
According to his interpretation, PSL could count on the support of other parties in exchange for certain concessions in ideological matters.
Most likely, there was some deal between PSL and the left or with the entire coalition, he said.
Jabłoński argued that the tensions surrounding the votes show problems with maintaining the unity of the ruling camp. He also criticized the idea of abolishing the limit on the number of terms of office for local government officials, pointing to the risk of perpetuating local political arrangements.
Common list of the right? Jabłoński does not see such a possibility
Krzysztof Ziemiec asked Jabłoński about the possibility of creating a joint list of right-wing parties before the next parliamentary elections. Jabłoński has currently ruled out such a scenario.
At the moment, I don't see any possibility that part of the PiS leadership will treat us as a potential partner for talks, he said.
As he explained, Rozwoju Plus has a different approach to building support for the opposition and does not agree with the style of action or some of the priorities of Law and Justice. He added that his community is attacked by PiS politicians who call its representatives traitors.
Jabłoński also questioned the belief that combining the support of several parties would automatically translate into an equally high result on the joint list. In his opinion, some voters would not accept a coalition with other parties and would refrain from voting.
