Meckel & Matthes: Bas quake, bot attack from Russia and psychedelic trip

Bärbel Bas is resigning because she is mourning the loss of a loved one. SPD officials such as Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania's Prime Minister Manuela Schwesig accuse the Union of having treated Bas and her grief "inhumanely" and "recklessly". The Union around Chancellor Friedrich Merz again denies any wrongdoing.

Miriam Meckel practices self-criticism: “Were we sometimes too hard on Bärbel Bas here in the podcast?” asks the publicist. With a view to the future of the government coalition, Handelsblatt editor-in-chief Sebastian Matthes is determined, despite the extreme mood of crisis: “There will be no new elections.”

The podcast is also about a false report circulating these days that Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian data centers have led to a decline in disinformation online. Finally, the hosts talk about an interview Miriam gave with the US journalist Michael Pollan, who became known for his books about psychedelic substances.