
桑德拉惠勒在專訪中表示,《挖掘者》的語氣難以歸類,既非喜劇也非悲劇,她與湯姆克魯斯及導演伊納利圖共同探索角色存在方式,強調合作過程開放且具創造性,電影將於10月2日在台上映。
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《挖掘者》是一部難以歸類的電影,融合荒謬、幽默、危機與人物情感,由伊納利圖執導,湯姆克魯斯與桑德拉惠勒主演。
〔記者許世穎/台北-倫敦連線專訪〕電影《挖掘者》七天連載來到第四天,今天繼續往下挖的,是歐洲影后桑德拉惠勒眼中的這部電影,以及她如何與「阿湯哥」湯姆克魯斯、導演阿利安卓崗札雷伊納利圖,在一個沒有既定答案的世界裡,一起找到角色與故事真正的語氣。
影后桑德拉惠勒(左)在《挖掘者》飾演湯姆克魯斯的妹妹,看似站在哥哥的對立面。(翻攝自YouTube)
桑德拉第一次接觸《挖掘者》時,面對的就不是一個容易歸類的電影劇本。她知道導演是伊納利圖,也知道對手戲演員是阿湯哥,但真正讓她感到有趣的,反而是這部電影獨特又難以形容的調性。
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「《挖掘者》真的很有意思,因為這是一種我過去很少使用的語氣。」桑德拉直言,這部作品既不是純粹的喜劇,也不是傳統悲劇,更不是一般觀眾熟悉的災難片,而是讓荒謬、幽默、危機與人物情感同時存在。也正因為如此,她很清楚,自己不能用過去熟悉的表演方式直接套進去,而必須重新尋找角色應該如何存在於這個世界。
桑德拉惠勒認為《挖掘者》充滿獨特又難以形容的調性。(翻攝自YouTube)
導演伊納利圖從一開始就沒有假裝自己已經知道所有答案,桑德拉透露,伊納利圖很早便對她說:「我們會一起找出它怎麼運作。」這句話對她而言非常重要,因為它意味著演員並不是拿到角色後,只需要把導演心中的答案完成,而是必須真正參與創作,一起摸索人物、關係與場景究竟可以走到哪裡。
最後,這也成為桑德拉拍攝《挖掘者》時最重要的工作方式之一,不是先決定什麼是正確的,而是在一次次排練與拍攝裡,慢慢找到最適合電影的狀態。
片中桑德拉飾演艾瑪,是阿湯哥飾演的迪格(挖掘者)的妹妹。迪格掌握龐大資源,是一名強勢的石油大亨;艾瑪則經營生態企業,看似站在哥哥的對立面,但兩人的關係並沒有被簡化成「誰代表正義、誰代表邪惡」。因為艾瑪自己的事業同樣可能帶來危險,她也並非一個毫無矛盾的理想主義者。
桑德拉惠勒日前出席《挖掘者》倫敦世界首映。(華納兄弟提供)
這讓片中這對兄妹之間真正有趣的地方,並不只是立場不同,而是兩個人都相信自己正在做對未來有意義的事情。對桑德拉來說,這也意味著艾瑪不能只被演成一個「環保派」角色,她必須相信自己的選擇,同時也讓觀眾看見這些選擇背後可能存在的問題。
而在建立這段兄妹關係時,阿湯哥並不是那種只等著導演下指令的對手演員。桑德拉談到兩人的合作時特別提到,他會主動想知道其他人怎麼看,「他會想知道其他人的想法」,兩人也因此能夠在現場一起合作、一起創造,「我們非常能夠一起合作,所以我們是在一起創造東西。」
換句話說,阿湯哥並不是把自己鎖在迪格這個角色裡,再要求其他演員配合他的節奏;相反地,他會把其他人的意見帶進來,讓場景在彼此碰撞之間逐漸成形。回憶整個拍攝環境,桑德拉形容現場的氣氛非常特別,「一直都很正面,也很有玩心」,甚至讓她覺得「好像可以一直拍下去」。
這種自由卻高度投入的合作方式,也延伸到導演伊納利圖身上,桑德大讚他非常有活力,幾乎整個拍攝日都在帶著所有人往前走,讓演員自然產生一種「想跟上他的速度」的感覺。他會不斷分享自己的想法,也會真的把想法拿到現場嘗試,而不是認定一個答案後就再也不改變。
桑德拉觀察到,有時候同一場戲隔天再拍,甚至會換成完全不同的方式,因為伊納利圖始終在尋找「最好的結果」。對她來說,這種不斷嘗試的過程並不是混亂,而是導演創作的一部分,他知道自己想要的是什麼,但也願意讓演員、場景甚至當下發生的事情,去改變最後的模樣。
這也正好呼應阿湯哥對伊納利圖創作方式的觀察,他形容,導演作品裡的每一個細節都經過仔細思考,但最後呈現出來,卻像是完全沒有刻意設計過一樣。桑德拉則從演員的角度證明了這一點:伊納利圖不是把所有答案先設計好,再要求演員照表操課,而是把演員拉進創作過程,讓大家一起尋找答案。
對於一部本身就不斷在荒謬、危機與情感之間切換的電影而言,這種方法反而讓人物不會被固定在單一的形象裡。
因此,當桑德拉再次說起伊納利圖最初對她說的那句「我們會一起找出它怎麼運作」,它其實已經不只是導演對一名演員的工作指示,更像是整部《挖掘者》的創作縮影。
沒有人一開始就知道這個故事應該用什麼方式演,沒有人能簡單替它貼上一個類型標籤;從迪格到艾瑪,從演員之間的關係到導演掌握的整體節奏,每個人都必須在拍攝過程中不斷往下挖。也正是在這個過程裡,桑德拉與湯姆一起挖掘角色、挖掘彼此的關係,伊納利圖則帶著所有人挖出一種前所未見的語氣,最後才形成這部既荒謬又危險、既瘋狂又帶著真實情感的《挖掘者》。
《挖掘者》將於10月2日在台上映,包括2D、IMAX、Dolby Cinema及Dolby Vision Atmos版本同步推出, 10月1日將搶先推出限定口碑場。
~《挖掘者》專訪七天連載第四天,未完待續~
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